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<DIV> You know
Lance, & Posh,</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>( PLEASE DON"T TAKE THIS e-mail WRONG)</STRONG> I don't
want you both to get mad at me ! YOu two could be good for each other if you
both could comprimise a little with each of your opinions. I mean I think it
depends on the church setting. Although I've always been raised you wear
nice stuff on Sunday morn. & maybe wear jeans on Sunday night &
stuff. I agree that its whats in the heart that counts ( Lance :)
& that the world as a whole is used to immodesty ( POSH :) . Look at
how girls dress in the summer...... </DIV>
<DIV> YOu two discussing this really made me think. I don't think we
should throw wearing formal clothing as a whole out totally either. Jeans &
T shirts are comfortable.... BUT I don't think God will condemn us for
wearing jeans either. Posh you had a lot of good points & Lance you did as
well. Like I said before a lot of it has to do with the culture you are
from. YOU <EM>two </EM>discussing this has really made me evaluate why I
believe what I believe. Thanks for helping me to really think about the
whole subject. <STRONG>I hope I havn't commented too much on this subjct &
havn't intererrupted your dicussion too much.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> God Bless You all</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> Jeff</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG> P.S. YOu know I really got to thinking on something
else since we were dicussing church. I really wonder if the way a lot of
churches are set up if it was the way God intended it. This is how a typical
Sunday is : You get up really early to get ready for church, then you rush there
( going over the speed limit if you are running a little late) & sit through
a service talk a while then rush home & make a huge meal & get done the
dinner dishes ( After eating & putting the leftovers away) at around 1-2 o'
clock. I mean God made <BR>Sunday as a day of rest not to make huge meals &
end up cleaning up everything . But then if we stay home half the time &
worship God that way <EM>often worship in our devotions is very easy to
be forgotton.</EM></STRONG> If you think about it we worship God all week
through our daily devotions ( Which I really try hard to do & have to
discipline myself to give up that 15 minutes of reading a novel &
really just communicate with God ) But anyway I am getting off track of my
point. IS OUR BUSY LIVES ( MEANING SUNDAY) the way God really
intended? Is it really a day of rest when we do all that extra work?? MAybe some
people don't see anything wrong with working on </DIV>
<DIV>Sunday ... ( doctors ect. need t odo it to keep things going) but I know if
I didn't have a few hours to read a book or do my e-mail I'd feel a lot
more exhausted & unready for the next week !!! <STRONG><U>
JUST SOME THOUGHTS I HAD & WONDERED WHAT ANYONE ELSE THOUGHT?
</U></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:58:11 -0700 (PDT) <A
href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A> writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>I guess your right and I'm wrong in this aspect. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>No matter what I say Lance...I'm wrong.</DIV>
<DIV>I wonder what kind of impression you think you gave me of yourself?
</DIV>
<DIV>If I did go to your 'church', would I still be greeted warmly? The way
you have been speaking to me...I might as well lick the dust under your
feet.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You make me sound like I'm haughty and self righteous. Why? If you feel
that these pasts emails have served you right, by making me feel like dressing
down is better than dressing up. Well, I guess I should join "The Band
Wagon"?! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What sence is there to be different and acually make an effort to stand
out as a clean and modest christian? I guess no matter where anyone goes, the
tshirt and jeans have the vote! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Shame on me for trying to represent my God and His heavenly Kingdom. I
guess the "rags" are better for the pure of heart. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But doesn't that mean you just labeled me? Just because I try to look
good and take the time to care for myself. And Just because I try and you
don't, doesn't mean I love god any less?! Where I go is not "upscale",
it's modest. I'm sorry you've been to places of worship that make you feel
that way. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>God does love the person..not the clothes. That is true because he loves
us all the time. But we live in a world where modest dress is UN HEARD OF.
Where no one dresses formaly for God anymore. So don't you think, living in
this kind of world, by dressing our best will make us STAND OUT of worshipers
of God. Because if we didn't, how could you tell everyone apart? (ones who
worship and ones who don't)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Posh</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>Sorry
Posh, I can NOT answer your question based off clothing! It's all about the
HEART of the people and pastor. I've been to both sides and I gotta tell you
9 out of 10 times, those that are in what you call rags, are worshiping so
deep and sincerely to God that it moves you. I've also been to a few
"upscale" Churchs and man, I was discusted by what the pastor said and some
of the actions of the formal dressed people there.<BR><BR>I'm quite certain
that it's a matter of preference: Apple or orange, brocoli or cauliflower,
etc. I prefer the Church that says come as you are. Not what you want us to
think you are. Like what Rev Ev said, it's how you love that person that
counts. Not what you wear.<BR><BR>God bless,<BR>Lance<BR><BR>Please note:
message attached<BR><BR>Let's say, one day you walked into a 'church'.<BR>In
the first 'church' everyone is hanging around in t-shir ts and jeans. They
all seem to be very laid back. They look no different than if they were
home. Everyone has their own way to come to 'church'.<BR>The second 'church'
you walk into, everyone is dressed up very nicely (casual dresses and
business suits) Young and old alike. They all seem to be very laid back.
Their faces look no different than if they were home. <BR>After going to
both 'churches'...which one would you feel was more serious about learning,
setting an example to new ones who have never been there before, and are
clean cut? <BR>I work in an office, I have to wear business casual clothes
to set an inviting atmosphere for new clients. Wouldn't that make sence to
bring that sort of atmosphere to 'church'. BUT....because 'church' is is
God's work...Doesn't it make sence to dress up even more? When you compare
the two....which one should get higher devotion? <BR>Let's say I do do what
you do when it comes to 'church'. I dress down and wear what I want. In my
heart, I would feel embarrest. When i know that I didn't give my best to
God. <BR><BR>And no...no guys wear tuxes, except at weddings. Although it
would be funny to see
:)<BR><BR>Posh<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>GCFL-discuss
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