<DIV>Sure Eric,</DIV>
<DIV>I was asking, what keeps you from learning it on your own? Do you want the same faith that is in your family...just because it's 'in' your family?</DIV>
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<DIV>Posh<BR><BR><B><I>gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I just have never realy given it much thought I guess. As for your<BR>second question would you clarify what you were asking. <BR><BR>>>> <GCFL-DISCUSS@GCFL.NET>4/29/2004 1:49:46 PM >>><BR>Eric,<BR><BR>That takes courage to talk about those kinds of life situations. Thank<BR>you for sharing with me.<BR>If you don't mind I have another question?!<BR>What is it about 'religion' that makes you not have an interest in it?<BR>To what to learn it on your own?<BR><BR>Posh<BR><BR>gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net wrote:<BR>Posh,<BR>It is not that I stopped attending church. Truth be told I have<BR>never realy gone. My parents and grandparents alike never attended<BR>every Sunday like most people do. My family only went to a service<BR>Christmas eve with some friends from Albany. That was the only time of<BR>the year that we ever went to church. My Grandparents were strict<BR>Italian
Catholic, and as for me well I don't know one way. My<BR>grandparents being Catholic, most of my friends Christian. I tend to<BR>listen to all sides of it. Not attending church most people atomaticly<BR>say "What you don't believe in GOD?!?!" and that is not true. I<BR>believe there is a GOD but I can believe that with out attending<BR>church.<BR>I don't know what others think but I would be interested to see what<BR>other people think of this (with out starting an argument, it is all<BR>opinion based). To sum it up not attending has been more of because my<BR>familiy never realy has.<BR><BR>Eric<BR>NY<BR><BR>>>> 4/29/2004 9:32:11 AM >>><BR>Thank you Eric for your words.<BR>I guess the old fashion people had their standards set for them and<BR>now<BR>people today are setting the standards for us. <BR>Tell me...Why is it you have stopped attending? If you don't want to<BR>answer it...that is totally okay with me.<BR><BR>Have a great day!
<BR><BR>Posh<BR><BR><BR>gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net wrote:<BR>Nancy,<BR>You did not butt in on anything. There was no argument made. Just an<BR>answer to a question. Nothing more. <BR><BR>To all,<BR>Last night I talked with a few of my older friends and they would all<BR>agree with Posh. They also said that the not dressing in business<BR>suites (or real fancy)and wearing jeans and t-shirts is just what<BR>people<BR>do now. It is more relaxed then when they went to church with their<BR>parents. It is just a changing of the times. I can't say what is right<BR>or wrong to do because as I said in the one email I sent on the topic<BR>I<BR>don't attend a church and that is my choice. I think what ever makes<BR>you feel the that you are your best you should do. I do agree that<BR>what<BR>ever you wear should be clean. This is the first topic I have ever<BR>seen<BR>on this discussion list to be argued so heavily. I have been on the<BR>list sense the first day it was started. I have learned a lot
about<BR>everyone on the list, from all the different topics and discussions. <BR>And this topic has showed me how strongly that people believe in<BR>something. And more importantly it has showed how everyone on the<BR>mailing list has one belief in common with every other person on the<BR>list and that belief is GOD. <BR><BR>Eric<BR>NY<BR><BR>>>> 4/28/2004 6:27:54 PM >>><BR>Posh and Eric,<BR>Please forgive my butting in on this, but you two are arguing over a<BR>personal belief and that is not that way any Christian should be. It<BR>is<BR>okay to feel the way Posh does and also okay to feel as Eric does. How<BR>you act is what makes you a standout for Christ and in some places and<BR>areas it does concern dress, but in others it does not.<BR>Please let this one go, put your hurt feelings aside and just love<BR>each<BR>other in Christ who loves us all, no matter what.<BR>Nancy<BR><BR>gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net wrote:<BR>Posh,<BR>I will hit on that question. I don't
attend a church. I know most<BR>the people on this list do but I am not ashamed to say I do not. That<BR>does not mean that I believe anyless than the next person and if<BR>everybody on this list is as understanding as I believe them to be<BR>they<BR>will not bother me on this point. But if I was to walk into the first<BR>church I would feel more comfortable and more "accepted" because it is<BR>a<BR>more casual atmosphere. Church 2 would make me feel like they are<BR>rigid<BR>and very stern, and that would be an uncomfortable feeling. Just<BR>telling how I would Feel<BR><BR>Eric<BR>NY<BR><BR>>>> 4/28/2004 3:15:12 PM >>><BR>Let's say, one day you walked into a 'church'.<BR>In the first 'church' everyone is hanging around in t-shirts and<BR>jeans.<BR>They all seem to be very laid back. They look no different than if<BR>they<BR>were home. Everyone has their own way to come to 'church'.<BR>The second 'church' you walk into, everyone is dressed up very nicely<BR>(casual
dresses and business suits) Young and old alike. They all seem<BR>to be very laid back. Their faces look no different than if they were<BR>home. <BR>After going to both 'churches'...which one would you feel was more<BR>serious about learning, setting an example to new ones who have never<BR>been there before, and are clean cut? <BR>I work in an office, I have to wear business casual clothes to set an<BR>inviting atmosphere for new clients. Wouldn't that make sence to bring<BR>that sort of atmosphere to 'church'. BUT....because 'church' is is<BR>God's<BR>work...Doesn't it make sence to dress up even more? When you compare<BR>the<BR>two....which one should get higher devotion? <BR>Let's say I do do what you do when it comes to 'church'. I dress down<BR>and wear what I want. In my heart, I would feel embarrest. When i know<BR>that I didn't give my best to God. <BR><BR>And no...no guys wear tuxes, except at weddings. Although it would be<BR>funny to see
:)<BR><BR>Posh<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net wrote:<BR><BR>Wow I'm not sure what part 2 has to do with any of our conversations,<BR>but part one mearly declares: <BR>"I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not<BR>with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with<BR>good<BR>deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God." <BR>Now how is a woman walking into Church with jeans or shorts not<BR>dressing modestly? Even if it's a skirt, that can still be modest. I'm<BR>sorry but this scripture says NOTHING about throwing on the formal<BR>wear<BR>and that beeing how you serve God.<BR><BR>It's all about the HEART of the worshiper. And that's all that<BR>matters.<BR><BR>Lance<BR>All the people, lemme hear you give a holler:<BR>IN GOD WE TRUST! IN GOD WE TRUST!<BR>We stamp it on our penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar.<BR>IN GOD WE TRUST! IN GOD WE TRUST!<BR>-- "Indivisible" by Pillar<BR><BR>Please note: message
attached<BR><BR>Also.....<BR>The matter of dress and grooming is another area in which we need to<BR>cultivate virtue. Clothing choices vary according to culture, and<BR>pressure may be strong to keep up with the latest styles and trends.<BR>But<BR>why should we follow every fad or fashion that comes along? The Bible<BR>admonishes us to "quit being fashioned after this system of things."<BR>(Romans 12:2) Rather than make up rules, the apostle Paul wrote under<BR>inspiration: "I desire the women to adorn themselves in well-arranged<BR>dress, with modesty and soundness of mind, not with styles of hair<BR>braiding and gold or pearls or very expensive garb, but in the way<BR>that<BR>befits women professing to reverence God." (1 Timothy 2:9, 10) This<BR>basic standard applies to men and women alike. Of course, there is<BR>room<BR>for delightful variety in style as a result of cultural preference or<BR>personal taste.<BR><BR>The Bible also identifies immoral practices that God
explicitly<BR>condemns. At 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10, we read the warning: "What! Do you<BR>not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God's kingdom? Do<BR>not<BR>be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men<BR>kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves,<BR>nor<BR>greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will<BR>inherit God's kingdom." Clearly, to cultivate virtue, we need to get<BR>thoroughly familiar with God's standards.<BR><BR>Posh<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>GCFL-discuss mailing list<BR>GCFL-discuss@gcfl.net <BR>http://gcfl.net/mailman/listinfo/gcfl-discuss <BR><BR>---------------------------------<BR>Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs <BR>_______________________________________________<BR>GCFL-discuss mailing list<BR>GCFL-discuss@gcfl.net <BR>http://gcfl.net/mailman/listinfo/gcfl-discuss
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