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Some one <EM>didn't sign again</EM>. As far as all the arguing going on guys: do
you really think that is what this discussion list is for? I mean it was made so
everyone could enjoy it not created to be an ARGUMENT LIST! I think we all
owe John the respect of keeping it toned down a little. For one thing arguing
over e-mail does nothing good. The other thing is two people end up
getting very mad at each other & neither one benefits. There is a
certain point of arguing in fun... Then there's really meaning it & I think
it is really getting out of hand. <EM>As much as Siarlys & I have
disagreed in the past I cannot stick up for someone who makes comments
& doesn't sign there name SO Siarlys was simply putting in his
opinion. Perhaps he has come across a bit strong but hey fighting
won't solve anything will it? </EM>I think we should all do our best to
write as if we were mature adults regardless if we are 10 or 99.
Trust me guys screaming at each other not only hurts both of you but changes the
mood of everyone on the list because everyone has to read you arguments. I
suggest if you want to continue your argument to do it on a more personal
private method. Please don't take what I wrote the wrong way but do you
both see my point?</DIV>
<DIV> Jeff</DIV>
<DIV>On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:38:15 -0700 <A
href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A> writes:<BR>>
Clean it up people!<BR>> <BR>> Lance<BR>> John 8:32 "You will know the
Truth and the Truth will set you <BR>> free."<BR>> <BR>> On Mon, 14 Jun
2004 23:36:25 -0700 <A
href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A> writes:<BR>>
> As much as I agree no-name. Lashing out won't fix anything.<BR>> >
<BR>> > Dajas<BR>> > <BR>> > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:29:28
-0700, <A href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A><BR>>
> <<A href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Do you truly ever quit being so
negative? Have you considered <BR>> > joining<BR>> > > other's
that hold your opinion so that we who think you're <BR>> messed <BR>> >
in the<BR>> > > head don't have to put up with you anymore? We either
believe in <BR>> <BR>> > our<BR>> > > Nation under God or not!
QUIT BEING SO NEGATIVE! I'M TIRED OF <BR>> YOUR <BR>> > WILD<BR>>
> > OFF THE WALL COMMENTS!<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>>
> <BR>>
=======================================================================<BR>>
> > You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be<BR>>
> > misquoted and used against you.<BR>> > > <BR>> >
<BR>>
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> > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:55:50 -0500 <A
href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A> <BR>>
writes:<BR>> > > > I haven't read the full text of this opinion yet,
but I <BR>> couldn't <BR>> > be<BR>> > > > happier with the
result that is summarized here:<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > CIVIL PROCEDURE, CONSTITUTIONAL LAW<BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > > ELK GROVE UNIFIED
SCHOOL DIST. v. NEWDOW, No. 02-1624 <BR>> > (U.S.S.C.<BR>> > >
> June<BR>> > > > 14, 2004)<BR>> >
> > A father did not have standing to challenge
the "under <BR>> God"<BR>> > > > portion<BR>> > >
> of the Pledge of Allegiance as violating the
<BR>> Establishment<BR>> > > > Clause on<BR>> > >
> behalf of his daughter, because he lacked "next
friend" <BR>> > status<BR>> > > > under<BR>> > >
> California Law.<BR>> > > ><BR>> >
> > To read the full text of this opinion, go
to:<BR>> > > > <A
href="http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/us/000/021624.html">http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/us/000/021624.html</A><BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > The Supreme Court
did not say that the words "under God" are<BR>> > > >
appropriate<BR>> > > > in the Pledge of Allegiance.<BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > > The Supreme Court did not say that the words
"under God" are<BR>> > > > inappropriate in the Pledge of
Allegiance.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > The Supreme Court did
say "get this nonsense out of our face" <BR>> by <BR>> > the<BR>>
> > > only<BR>> > > > legal process available: saying that
the father had no <BR>> standing <BR>> > to<BR>> > > >
bring<BR>> > > > his suit to court in the first place.<BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > > I continue to believe that it was a mistake for
Congress to <BR>> > adopt<BR>> > > > ANY<BR>> > >
> "official" version of the Pledge in 1942, much less add words <BR>> to
<BR>> > it<BR>> > > > in<BR>> > > > 1954 -- but
there is not much the courts can do about that.<BR>> > > ><BR>>
> > > I also believe that putting the words "under God" into a<BR>>
> > > second-rate<BR>> > > > piece of secular verse defiles
the Holy Name of God.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > But most of
all, I believe that reciting a pledge to a flag is <BR>> <BR>> >
a<BR>> > > > violation of the Second Commandment. That is between me
and <BR>> > God,<BR>> > > > not<BR>> > > > binding
on anyone else, and also no business of the Supreme<BR>> > > >
Court's.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > The court did the right
thing, the common sense thing, and <BR>> > acted<BR>> > > >
with<BR>> > > > appropriate humility.<BR>> > > ><BR>>
> >
>
Siarlys<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >
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