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<DIV> Siarlys,</DIV>
<DIV> Please do not take this wrong but I was a little concerned about some
of the language you were using <EM>especially</EM> considering there are young
children subscribed to this list as well as adults. Again not because I was
offended but because it is a reminder for all of us ( Including myself)
<BR> Thanks</DIV>
<DIV> Jeff</DIV>
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<DIV>On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:46:01 -0500 <A
href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A> writes:<BR>>
No, I am not proposing a name for a punk rock group. But one thing <BR>>
Jeff<BR>> wrote sent me off on another tangent.<BR>> <BR>> A friend of
a friend of mine once introduced me to a young man <BR>> whose<BR>>
nick-name was "the Gay Christian." He was a graduate of Bob Jones<BR>>
University, raised in a Southern Baptist Church in Goldsboro, NC, <BR>>
and<BR>> somewhere along the line found, chose, or somehow came to act and
<BR>> think<BR>> of himself as homosexual. But he adhered to all other
beliefs of <BR>> any<BR>> born-again Christians.<BR>> <BR>> I asked
him, you must be familiar with references in the Old <BR>> Testament<BR>>
that are cited to condemn what you are saying. How do you responed <BR>>
to<BR>> that?<BR>> <BR>> He answered, oh, you mean in Leviticus? If I
am talking to a <BR>> Christian, I<BR>> ask, do you eat crab, lobster,
oysters, or pork? Those things are <BR>> also<BR>> prohibited in a chapter
of Leviticus. Now if I'm talking to a Muslim <BR>> or<BR>> an Orthodox
Jew, I can't say that, because they DO honor the command <BR>> to<BR>> eat
none of those things.<BR>> <BR>> I recounted this a few months later to a
friend who I knew had a<BR>> different attitude on the subject, who was
easily ready and able to <BR>> cite<BR>> what the New Testament says about
dietary laws. I speculated that if <BR>> I<BR>> had a chance to pass that
comment along to the gay Christian, he <BR>> would<BR>> answer "like Paul
said about diet, if you are a heterosexual, be a<BR>> heterosexual for
Christ, if you are a homosexual, be a homosexual <BR>> for<BR>> Christ."
Of course Paul ranked one man lying with another right up <BR>> there<BR>>
with fornication, but then, most homosexual conduct WAS fornication <BR>>
in<BR>> the culture of the Roman Empire. Even cultures that have
respected<BR>> homosexuality never even considered that it might be the basis
for <BR>> a<BR>> marriage. And in our culture today, men who freely engage
in <BR>> fornication<BR>> somehow feel that they are superior to men who
engage in <BR>> homosexuality,<BR>> whether monogamous or
promiscuous.<BR>> <BR>> So, when it comes to twisting and turning
Scripture, I sometimes <BR>> arrive<BR>> at the conclusion that EVERYONE
who cites scripture is twisting and<BR>> turning it to their own
satisfaction. Some people still cite <BR>> Leviticus to<BR>> uphold that
God approves of the death penalty -- but Jesus said, <BR>> "Let he<BR>>
among you who is without sin cast the first stone."<BR>> <BR>> (Which is
exactly what I would hold up in the face of the<BR>> "godhatesfags.com"
idiots if I ever ran into them -- it wasn't let <BR>> he<BR>> among you
who never committed THIS sin cast the first stone, but he <BR>> who<BR>>
is WITHOUT sin.)<BR>> <BR>> Jesus did change some of the rules. Why? I
expect because God <BR>> decided it<BR>> was time t change the rules.
Maybe us humans were a little more <BR>> mature by<BR>> then. <BR>>
<BR>> Siarlys<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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