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<DIV>On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:09:10 -0700 "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies
List" <<A href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A>>
writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Candara size=4>Comments?
Discussion?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Candara size=4>I thought we would have
heard from Siarlys already.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Candara size=4>Jeanene</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I was waiting for you Jeanene. I never know if anyone really wants to talk
about it. Where have Frank and that other older guy gotten to anyway?</DIV>
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<DIV>Of course I agree with Lance. It is such a blessing that Hillary Clinton is
NOT going to be our next president. She did get one good line in, when Rush
Limbaugh urged his followers to vote for her as a sabotage-the-Democrats move,
she replied "He's always had a crush on me." Also, she somehow did inspire some
millions of people I never thought she could speak to, who fervently voted for
her. But I suspect some of them would have voted for McCain in the fall, even if
Hillary were the nominee.</DIV>
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<DIV>I certainly don't want Hillary on the ticket. She and her sidekick will
assume that THEY are really in charge, the president only window dressing. And,
there are more people like Lance who will vote for McCain if she IS on the
ticket, than her supporters who will vote for McCain if she is not.</DIV>
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<DIV>One thing for sure: our next president will NOT be named "Clinton" or
"Bush." Amen.</DIV>
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<DIV>Naturally, I disagree with Lance about even considering McCain. He was on
my will-not-vote-for list, along with Hillary, Romney and Giuliani, back in
2007. When it comes to economic issues, he is stuck in the idea that if wealthy
people are protected, everyone else will somehow also be prosperous. When it
comes to Iraq, he misses the most fundamental point: can someone please define
what "victory" in this quagmire would consist of?</DIV>
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<DIV>In Vietnam, we at least knew that "victory" meant a ruthless, corrupt
dictatorship, despised by its own people (which is why they kept shooting at our
brave troops), a cabal of paper generals who considered it the job of the U.S.
to fight the war, while they lived lavishly off of U.S. taxpayer subsidies,
victory meant that these banal little criminals would remain in Saigon and rule
the entire country, or at least the southern portion, forever.</DIV>
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<DIV>In Iraq, we don't even have that. The most powerful faction in the
government our troops are dying for is just biding their time for us to leave,
and occasionally shooting at us. The rest of the government is accepting our
money, and it disappears into a thousand pockets without restoring the
reasonably comfortable civilian existence most Iraqis enjoyed under Saddam
Hussein. Our closest friends are the Sunni Arabs who dominated the government we
went there to overthrow. We are in the middle of a civil war without any
friends. So where does this guy get the idea that there is any course to
stay?</DIV>
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<DIV>As Barack Obama said when we first went into Iraq, "I'm not against all
wars, I'm against dumb wars." And its true, Afghanistan is where our priority
should have been, and we're losing there because we are stretched thin in
Iraq.</DIV>
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<DIV>IF we are going to stay in Iraq, it is time for "the American people" (not
that we have ever managed to assemble more than 60% of us in favor of any
political proposition, aside from maybe winning WW II, and then we couldn't
agree on what for), it is time for ALL of us to step up to the plate. IF this
war is worth fighting and winning, then lets stop recycling a rather small
volunteer military over and over to do all the suffering and dying. Let's see a
million advocates of "staying the course" volunteer to enlist and go serve on
the front lines. And then let's see a million more, who don't really believe in
the war, go over there just because if our country is going to be there, we
should all share the prices, and nobody has more credibility saying the war is
wrong than someone who served in it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Short of that, John McCain is a dud.</DIV>
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<DIV>Siarlys</DIV>
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