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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=629063004-20062008>My
comments are interspersed among Siarlys'.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008>greenBubble</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>...but fast forward to today, and the real life situation is that three,
four, five generations have grown up and learned their identity in this
"Palestinian" environment. To deny that is like teaching African Americans whose
great-great-grandparents moved north to live in the city that their identity is
somehow rooted in a rural county in southern Alabama. It's not...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>..."the people" are not the voices that make political deals. Politicians
and parties and organizations that claim to represent "the people" are. But who
and what "the people" will follow makes a big difference.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>If Israel cannot offer those people who have been defined as Palestinians,
and come to think of themselves as Palestinians, a reasonable hope of some sort
of life they can accept and appreciate, suicide bombers will continue to emerge,
with a sense of self-righteousness, from among those people who see no hope for
the future. If Hamas can clear criminal gangs off the street, provide some peace
and quiet, organize medical and social services that nobody else offered, people
will support Hamas. (I don't think you would disagree that the corruption and
nepotism inside Fatah is what made Hamas popular).<SPAN
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(Ironically, if predictably, Hamas is even worse in that
regard.) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>So Israel can either come to terms with the fact that this population of
people exists and has to be provided for, or can try to exterminate every last
one of them, or continue a state of pertetual war. <FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008>Israel cannot offer these people any hope, unless and
until these people are interested in hoping. You give them a gift of
cultivated farmland with the latest technology so that they can support
themselves, and they ransack it for scrap. and then they plead
poverty.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008>Further, why is it Israel who has to give them
hope. Let their Arab brethren give them hope. Israel's goal has to
be to survive. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=629063004-20062008>They
will never be satisfied with half a loaf. <SPAN
class=629063004-20062008>They will never be satisfied until the Mediteranean
Coast is Israel's Eastern border. If then.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008>However and whyever this generation of "Palestinians"
came to be what they are, the fact is that they are what they are. It is
impossible to deal with them or offer them any hope of any kind.
The </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008>only way to come to terms with them is to be strong
and prevent them from killing us. If they know that violence will
boomerang, they will stop. That is the only language they
understand. Kindness is percived as weakness.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=629063004-20062008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=629063004-20062008>In
the immortal words of Golda Meir, peace will come to Israel when, and only
when, the Arabs come to love their sons more than they hate
us.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=629063004-20062008>It
takes two to make peace. It takes one to make
war.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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size=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>P.S. While nobody devoted to Jerusalem, Christian, Muslim or Jewish, really
wants to hear this, the only viable way to keep Jerusalem undivided is to
organize it as a political entity to which everyone has free access. The Dome of
the Rock isn't going away, neither is the Wailing Wall, nor those silly Greek
and Armenian priests who get into brawls over who is stepping onto whose section
in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Romans kicked the Jews out and named the
city Aelia Capitolina, Jews eagerly helped both Sassanians and the original
Muslim jihad take it from the Byzantines, and ultimately, if we don't want the
place to keep changing hands like that, it needs to be accessible to all of the
above (excepts the Sassanians, who are either refugee communities in India or
converts to Shia Islam in Iran).<SPAN class=629063004-20062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=629063004-20062008> </SPAN><FONT
face=Times-New-Roman><FONT size=2><SPAN class=629063004-20062008><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff>For eightteen years, from '48-'67, East
Jerusalem was "an international city" . Jews were not able to live or
pray there. Under Israeli sovereignship, anyone can pray there, and the
most rabid Israel-hater can live there. Why would any fair-minded person
want to change
that?</FONT></SPAN><BR>____________________________________________________________
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