[GCFL-discuss] Old cowboy goes to church

Wed Apr 28 08:43:51 CDT 2004

WOW------

I don't think my intent was to ATTACK you there lance. If you feel that was the direction I was going....then I apoligize. 

I never thought that this discussion group was an arguement between others? If that is the way this subject is going....I withdraw. Proverbs 3:5 & 6

The world is as it is. All we can do is try to live together in peace and love. "Love does not get puffed up" 1 cor. 13:4 But we have to take a stand for what we all believe as the truth. I believe in somethings I see some of you don't. If you feel, you should wear what you want...then fine. As long as in your heart you feel you are doing your utmost to praise out GOD through your appreal. God sees your heart. He KNOWS your heart condition. 

All I was trying to voice was that when representing GOD..I always present myself as a worshiper of GOD. If you feel (as is all of you from what I see) that this is where this subject should lie...then let it lie. 

Posh

gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:
Let's set one thing straight here and now Posh. You want to hold a conversation with me, that's fine. Don't ever attack me again (paragraph 3)! As long as you got that good and clear, continue on, if not don't address me again. I will not be attacked by someone who isn't mature enough to keep this topic civil.

I would say it's not my place to judge a person's outside, especially on how they worship. I myself know a couple of Goths and skaters that would disgust you to no end based off these claims that clothing controls one's worship.

The only words I think I have for you at this point is this:
Philippians 3:15 "All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you."

God bless you,
Lance
John 8:32 "You will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:45:56 -0700 (PDT) gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net writes:
I beg to differ Lance.....

I am not saying that a person needs to wear what they don't have. If they don't have a dress to wear, I would understand. But I would think in time they would want to get one. You can get nice ones at garage sales for like 1 buck!!

Maybe your thinking of what god thinks is your opinon. Do you honestly believe that if you walked into a 'church' where everyone wore what they want, you would feel like they worship him with a full heart? Because it sounds half hearted to me. 

maybe you think that because you are not hearing directly FROM god..."thou shall not have to wear nice clothes when in my presence." That you really don't have too? It is your heart condition that shows what you are on the outside.

Time and unforseen occurance befall us all and I can understand if you CAN NOT find proper clothes to wear. As long as it is not all the time. Would you want someone coming into your work like that everytime??? It is love for our neighbors that drive us to please god and them. Do you do that by saying, "it doesn't matter what you wear?" 

COME ON------Love for god does not end when you step out of 'church' does it??? Your bodies are sacrafices to god. Would you not WANT to honor him at all times by looking your best when you come to his place of worship?

Posh

gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:

I beg to differ Posh. God doesn't care about clothing. He cares about the condition of our heart. Our intentions in our worship of Him is most important. Yes we as humans justify clothing as showing repsect, but as long as you claim you're not showing God respect because of the clothing your wearing, the moment we lose all those Christians that "come as they are". 

If you go about telling people it's the clothing you wear that impacts God, I gotta tell ya, you missed the boat. We will turn away people who NEED Christ if people take the stand that clothing controls your worship of God. And I gotta tell ya, clothing don't mean a thing without your heart being on Christ.

I've seen bikers, Goths, skaters, preps, etc all come and meet at the foot of the Cross. Their clothing doesn't fit your definition of Church clothes, but let me tell you, their heart of worship is amazing. And THAT my friend is most important: humbling yourself before God AS YOU ARE. Not as someone has told you you need to be.

God bless you,
Lance
All the people, lemme hear you give a holler:
IN GOD WE TRUST! IN GOD WE TRUST!
We stamp it on our penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar.
IN GOD WE TRUST! IN GOD WE TRUST!
-- "Indivisible" by Pillar

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Hi All,
I've noticed some stories or jokes pertaining to clothing in "church".

Some have said, "God doesn't care as long as your there".

I say, "How could you say that???"

When you go on a job interview, do you say" My future employer will understand. As long as I show up!" NO-------
That doesn't get you anywhere. We have to be our finest and well groomed. We are speaking of being in god's house of worship. Would you go to the Presidents home and wear tshirts and jeans, saying he will understand???

No he won't. There is respect t hat is lacking in peoples hearts for PURE worship. Wearing jeans, SHORT skirts, and any old thing is not showing CLEAN worship. 

Certain things people think are just that....what people think. What about what god thinks? Would you really NOT care what kind of concern you put on cleanliness???? 

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