[GCFL-discuss] Old cowboy goes to church

Thu Apr 29 08:16:29 CDT 2004

To sum up my whole point and end it with a closing thought...always remember-----Dress modestly.
 What you wear sends out a message to others. Back in Bible times, wearing certain styles of clothing branded a person as being immoral or promiscuous. (Proverbs 7:10) The same is often true today; tight, flashy, or revealing clothing can attract the wrong kind of attention. True, some may feel they have a right to wear whatever they desire. But as writer Elizabeth Powell puts it, "if you worked among people who believed stealing money was okay, I'd tell you not to wear your billfold on your hip. . . . You have to recognize the sickness of . . . society's attitudes and try to protect yourself from being victimized by them." The Bible's advice is thus up-to-date. It admonishes women to "adorn themselves in well-arranged dress, with modesty and soundness of mind." (1 Timothy 2:9) Dress modestly, and you may be less likely to be a target of abusive speech or actions in any place you go. At this scripture no dought goes for both men and women. The scripture does not say...just in
 'church'. It doesn't give a time or place. It should be all the time.

Posh

gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:
Yes Posh, we would love on you no matter what clothing you wear. I'd prefer if you wouldn't put words in my mouth. I never labeled you, nore did I claim any self righteousness. I didn't ask you to join the band wagon. 

I asked you to reconsider your stance that the clothing makes the worshiper. Because there is no Biblical verse you'll be able to quote to get any of us to believe that the clothing makes the worshiper. 

I do dress up and sometimes I go comfortable. Never do I go as a slob, NEVER.

Thank you so much for saying this: "God does love the person..not the clothes."

Leave it at that!

God bless you,
Lance
John 8:32 "You will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:58:11 -0700 (PDT) gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net writes:
I guess your right and I'm wrong in this aspect. 

No matter what I say Lance...I'm  wrong.
I wonder what kind of impression you think you gave me of yourself? 
If I did go to your 'church', would I still be greeted warmly? The way you have been speaking to me...I might as well lick the dust under your feet.

You make me sound like I'm haughty and self righteous. Why? If you feel that these pasts emails have served you right, by making me feel like dressing down is better than dressing up. Well, I guess I should join "The Band Wagon"?! 

What sence is there to be different and acually make an effort to stand out as a clean and modest christian? I guess no matter where anyone goes, the tshirt and jeans have the vote! 

Shame on me for trying to represent my God and His heavenly Kingdom. I guess the "rags" are better for the pure of heart. 

But doesn't that mean you just labeled me? Just because I try to look good and take the time to care for myself. And Just because I try and you don't, doesn't mean I love god any less?! Where I go is not "upscale", it's modest. I'm sorry you've been to places of worship that make you feel that way. 

God does love the person..not the clothes. That is true because he loves us all the time. But we live in a world where modest dress is UN HEARD OF. Where no one dresses formaly for God anymore. So don't you think, living in this kind of world, by dressing our best will make us STAND OUT of worshipers of God. Because if we didn't, how could you tell everyone apart? (ones who worship and ones who don't)

Posh

gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:

Sorry Posh, I can NOT answer your question based off clothing! It's all about the HEART of the people and pastor. I've been to both sides and I gotta tell you 9 out of 10 times, those that are in what you call rags, are worshiping so deep and sincerely to God that it moves you. I've also been to a few "upscale" Churchs and man, I was discusted by what the pastor said and some of the actions of the formal dressed people there.

I'm quite certain that it's a matter of preference: Apple or orange, brocoli or cauliflower, etc. I prefer the Church that says come as you are. Not what you want us to think you are. Like what Rev Ev said, it's how you love that person that counts. Not what you wear.

God bless,
Lance

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Let's say, one day you walked into a 'church'.
In the first 'church' everyone is hanging around in t-shir ts and jeans. They all seem to be very laid back. They look no different than if they were home. Everyone has their own way to come to 'church'.
The second 'church' you walk into, everyone is dressed up very nicely (casual dresses and business suits) Young and old alike. They all seem to be very laid back. Their faces look no different than if they were home. 
After going to both 'churches'...which one would you feel was more serious about learning, setting an example to new ones who have never been there before, and are clean cut? 
I work in an office, I have to wear business casual clothes to set an inviting atmosphere for new clients. Wouldn't that make sence to bring that sort of atmosphere to 'church'. BUT....because 'church' is is God's work...Doesn't it make sence to dress up even more? When you compare the two....which one should get higher devotion? 
Let's say I do do what you do when it comes to 'church'. I dress down and wear what I want. In my heart, I would feel embarrest. When i know that I didn't give my best to God. 

And no...no guys wear tuxes, except at weddings. Although it would be funny to see :)

Posh
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