[GCFL-discuss] (no subject)

Mon May 24 13:09:30 CDT 2004

Still, no sighting of sources. It's still opinion till sources are sighted.

Dajas

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Not an Opinion...it's the truth. I did my research from a website. I
also looked in books and so forth.
 The Bible speaks for itself. If you want to know more, just ask?

 POSH

gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:
Posh, excellent OPINION... But where did you dredge that opinion up?
You didn't even sight your source, come now, you know better than
that. Where did you get this?

Wouldn't this be considered radical opinion? Not accepted opinion?

God bless,
Dajasgelendam Mauschu

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From: gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net 
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [GCFL-discuss] (no subject)
To: Lance Kirkman 
Cc: "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List" 

Since the dead have no conscious existence, hell cannot be a fiery
place of torment where the wicked suffer after death. What, then, is
hell? Examining what happened to Jesus after he died helps to answer
that question. The Bible writer Luke recounts: "Neither was [Jesus]
forsaken in Hades [hell, King James Version] nor did his flesh see
corruption."* (Acts 2:31) Where was the hell to which even Jesus went?
The apostle Paul wrote: "I handed on to you . . . that Christ died for
our sins according to the Scriptures; and that he was buried, yes,
that he has been raised up the third day according to the Scriptures."
(1 Corinthians 15:3, 4) So Jesus was in hell, the grave, but he was
not abandoned there, for he was raised up, or resurrected.

Job prayed for protection in hell

Consider also the case of the righteous man Job, who suffered much.
Wishing to escape his plight, he pleaded: "Who will grant me this,
that thou mayest protect me in hell [Sheol], and hide me till thy
wrath pass?"# (Job 14:13, Douay Version) How unreasonable to think
that Job desired to go to a fiery-hot place for protection! To Job,
"hell" was simply the grave, where his suffering would end. The Bible
hell, then , is the common grave of mankind where good people as well
as bad ones go.

Could it be that the fire of hell is symbolic of all-consuming, or
thorough, destruction? Separating fire from Hades, or hell, the
Scriptures say: "Death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire."
"The lake" mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell (Hades)
that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned. "This [lake of
fire] means the second death"���death from which there is no hope of
coming back to life.���Revelation 20:14.

Fiery Gehenna���a symbol of eternal destruction

The lake of fire has a meaning similar to that of "the fiery Gehenna
[hell fire, King James Version]" that Jesus spoke of. (Matthew 5:22;
Mark 9:47, 48) Gehenna occurs 12 times in the Christian Greek
Scriptures, and it refers to the valley of Hinnom, outside the walls
of Jerusalem. When Jesus was on earth, this valley was used as a
garbage dump, "where the dead bodie s of criminals, and the carcasses
of animals, and every other kind of filth was cast." (Smith's
Dictionary of the Bible) The fires were kept burning by adding sulfur
to burn up the refuse. Jesus used that valley as a proper symbol of
everlasting destruction.

As does Gehenna, the lake of fire symbolizes eternal destruction.
Death and Hades are "hurled into" it in that they will be done away
with when mankind is freed from sin and the condemnation of death.
Willful, unrepentant sinners will also have their "portion" in that
lake. (Revelation 21:8) They too will be annihilated forever. On the
other hand, those in God's memory who are in hell���the common grave of
mankind���have a marvelous future.
Hell Emptied!

Revelation 20:13 states: "The sea gave up those dead in it, and death
and Hades gave up those dead in them." Yes, the Bible hell will be
emptied. As Jesus promised, "the hour is coming in which all those in
the memorial tombs will hear [Jesus'] voice and come out." (John 5:28,
29) Although no longer presently existing in any form, millions of
dead ones who are in Jehovah God's memory will be resurrected, or
brought back to life, in a restored earthly paradise.���Luke 23:43; Acts
24:15.

In the new world of God's making, resurrected humans who comply with
his righteous laws will never need to die again. (Isaiah 25:8) Jehovah
"will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more,
neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore." In fact, "the
former things [will] have passed away." (Revelation 21:4) What a
blessing is in store for those in hell���"the memorial tombs"! This
blessing indeed is reason enough for us to take in more knowledge of
Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus Christ.���John 17:3.

'Those in the memorial tombs will come out'
In the King James Version, the Greek word Hades is rendered "hell" in
each of its ten occurren ces in the Christian Greek Scriptures. The
rendering at Luke 16:19-31 mentions torment, but the entire account is
symbolic in meaning.
The Hebrew word Sheol occurs 65 times in the Hebrew Scriptures and is
rendered "hell," "grave," and "pit" in the King James Version.

POSH

gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:
Posh, 
Ok I disagree with you. First off God will destroy anyone who does
not have a personal walk with him. Second of all the many times hell
is written about in the Bible is so often I did not bother to count
them because it would take too long. In 2Pe 2:4 God cast the angels
that sinned into hell until the judgement.2Pe 2:4 For if God spared
not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered
them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
In Revelation ( which is a book written about the future) all people
who's name were not written in the book of life were cast into the
lake of fire ( hel l)
Re 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was
cast into the lake of fire.
If you study the Bible closely ( not meaning you havn't) you will
find Gods plan is like this"
God made man.Man lived in the garden. Man sinned. God sent his only
begotton Son JESUS into the world so that we may be saved through him.
If man ( this is meaning women too :) does not accept Christ & truely
walk with him before he dies he goes to
hell. No matter how much anyone ever wants to change that, it is the
way it is because that is what the Bible says.
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