[GCFL-discuss] 35 years?

[Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List]

Obviously, I don't trust Hillary, and see some good potential in Obama. I
don't trust McCain either. Before Edwards dropped out, I was torn between
him and Obama. I think a southern cotton mill worker's son offers a good
foundation for pulling the country together on some kind of basis most of
us can be proud of (not 45% of us plus 6% of the 10% that really swing
elections, but most of us.) In the general election, he might have
broader appeal than a man with a mother from Kansas and a father from
Kenya.

Remember in 1996 when Sen. Bob Dole criticized Hillary Clinton's book,
"It Takes a Village"? He said "It doesn't take a village to raise a
child, it takes a family." He was wrong -- one reason a lot more children
are a lot more out of control these days is that families have to do it
all, while it really takes a much larger network of adults to make a
child into a well-rounded adult, or even a well-rounded child. Family is
central, but not sufficient. On the other hand, Hillary's book openly
advocated that in the modern world, government is that village. Its not,
and it can't be. That is as good a paradigm as any for why I don't trust
her. Government has responsibilities, but it is not the village.

I am a little disappointed with Obama right now. His campaign is spending
too much time sending me emails on the delegate count and the
fundraising. The media started that, but I would like him to rise above
it, in a way he isn't doing. I don't care who is ahead in the delegate
count, I want to hear the latest on why anyone should WANT to vote for
him. I'm alos looking for candidates with the courage to tell their own
constituencies, Democrat or Republican, that it is time to stop
politicizing marriage, get it out of silly lawsuits and constitutional
amendments, and really, its no business of the federal government anyway.
But underneath it all, I see inspiration to move a program forward,
budget skills to sort out what we want to pay for and what we don't, and
how we will finance it, and a great opportunity to mend ties with the
rest of the world while holding with firm integrity to our better
principles as a nation. Yeah, he's a liberal, but liberals have been
putting money into funding community police presence that conservatives
seem to gut when they get the chance. Among other things.

Siarlys

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:07:21 -0700 "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies
List" <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> writes:
Thanks Green!!
~Lance
 
On 3/13/08, Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List
<gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote: 
i don't like any of the candidates.
i voted for hilary in the primary as in "better the devil you know ...."
and will probably vote mccain in  november.
 
greenBubble




Subject: Re: [GCFL-discuss] 35 years?

 
I don't think Hillary shines. She scares me!! But I know so little about
Obama.

How are people looking at this years elections? Who do they like and why?
~Lance


On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies
List <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote:

> When I hear Hillary Clinton speak of her 35 years experience in
> government, I can't help think of Nancy Reagan's observation "For
> eight years I was sleeping with the President of the United States. If
> that doesn't give you special access, I don't know what does."
>
> Unlike Nancy Reagan, Hillary Clinton had her own law degree, in her
> own right, and her own law practice, distinct from the career of her
> husband. However, her own distinct experience in government is only
seven
> years. Prior to 2000, she had been the governor's wife, the
ex-governor's
> wife, the governor returned to office's wife, the president's wife...
that
> is what her experience in government consisted of.
>
> Michelle Obama has her own law degree too. But if she says, eight
> years from now, that she has experience in the Illinois legislature,
the
> U.S. senate, and the White House, I will not be in the least impressed
> that she is a viable candidate for president. She might run on her own
> merit for governor of Illinois -- that would be a different question
> entirely.
>
> Any man or woman who aspires to be president should do so on their
> own distinct and individual experience in government, or lack thereof.
>
> Take, for instance, Margaret Thatcher. I would never have voted for
> her for anything, becuse there is very little she did or said that I do

> not abhor. But, as a woman in public office, she got to be prime
> minister as the culmination of her own service in parilament. Her
husband
> Dennis never ran for or served in public office. He had a business of
his
> own, and he was very much a quiet man in the background of Thatcher's
> public career.
>
> On her own, Hillary has seven going on eight years in government.
> Barack Obama has 8 years in the Illinois legislature, three going on
four
> years in the United States Senate, total of 11+ years. It hardly seems
like
> the angle which makes her shine.
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