[GCFL-discuss] *FOOD 4 THOUGHT*

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           You know Lance, & Posh,
( PLEASE DON"T TAKE THIS  e-mail WRONG)  I don't want you both to get mad
at me !  YOu two could be good for each other if you both could
comprimise a little with each of your opinions. I mean I think it depends
on the church setting. Although I've always been raised  you wear nice
stuff on Sunday morn. &  maybe wear jeans on Sunday night & stuff.  I
agree that its whats in the heart that counts ( Lance :)  & that the
world as a whole is used to immodesty ( POSH :) . Look at  how girls
dress in the summer...... 
   YOu two discussing this really made me think. I don't think we should
throw wearing formal clothing as a whole out totally either. Jeans & T
shirts are comfortable.... BUT I don't think God will  condemn us for
wearing jeans either. Posh you had a lot of good points & Lance you did
as well.  Like I said before a lot of it has to do with the culture you
are from.  YOU two discussing this has really made me evaluate why I
believe what I believe. Thanks for helping me to  really think about the
whole subject. I hope I havn't commented too much on this subjct & havn't
intererrupted your dicussion too much.
  God Bless You all
 Jeff
  P.S. YOu know I really  got to thinking on something else since we were
dicussing church. I really wonder if the way a lot of churches are set up
if it was the way God intended it. This is how a typical Sunday is : You
get up really early to get ready for church, then you rush there ( going
over the speed limit if you are running a little late) & sit through a
service talk a while then rush home & make a huge meal & get done the
dinner dishes ( After eating & putting the leftovers away)  at around 1-2
o' clock. I mean God made 
Sunday as a day of rest not to make huge meals & end up cleaning up
everything . But then if we stay home half the time & worship God that
way often worship in our devotions  is very  easy to be  forgotton. If
you think about it we worship God all week through our daily devotions (
Which I really try hard to do & have to discipline myself to give up that
15  minutes of reading a novel & really just communicate with God )  But
anyway I am getting off track of my point.  IS OUR BUSY LIVES ( MEANING 
SUNDAY) the way God really intended? Is it really a day of rest when we
do all that extra work?? MAybe some people don't see anything wrong with
working on 
Sunday ... ( doctors ect. need t odo it to keep things going) but I know
if I didn't have a few hours to read a book or do my e-mail I'd feel a
lot more exhausted & unready for the next week  !!!    JUST SOME THOUGHTS
I HAD & WONDERED WHAT ANYONE ELSE THOUGHT? 

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:58:11 -0700 (PDT) gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net writes:
I guess your right and I'm wrong in this aspect. 

No matter what I say Lance...I'm  wrong.
I wonder what kind of impression you think you gave me of yourself? 
If I did go to your 'church', would I still be greeted warmly? The way
you have been speaking to me...I might as well lick the dust under your
feet.

You make me sound like I'm haughty and self righteous. Why? If you feel
that these pasts emails have served you right, by making me feel like
dressing down is better than dressing up. Well, I guess I should join
"The Band Wagon"?! 

What sence is there to be different and acually make an effort to stand
out as a clean and modest christian? I guess no matter where anyone goes,
the tshirt and jeans have the vote! 

Shame on me for trying to represent my God and His heavenly Kingdom. I
guess the "rags" are better for the pure of heart. 

But doesn't that mean you just labeled me? Just because I try to look
good and take the time to care for myself. And Just because I try and you
don't, doesn't mean I love god any less?! Where I go is not "upscale",
it's modest. I'm sorry you've been to places of worship that make you
feel that way. 

God does love the person..not the clothes. That is true because he loves
us all the time. But we live in a world where modest dress is UN HEARD
OF. Where no one dresses formaly for God anymore. So don't you think,
living in this kind of world, by dressing our best will make us STAND OUT
of worshipers of God. Because if we didn't, how could you tell everyone
apart? (ones who worship and ones who don't)

Posh




gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:

Sorry Posh, I can NOT answer your question based off clothing! It's all
about the HEART of the people and pastor. I've been to both sides and I
gotta tell you 9 out of 10 times, those that are in what you call rags,
are worshiping so deep and sincerely to God that it moves you. I've also
been to a few "upscale" Churchs and man, I was discusted by what the
pastor said and some of the actions of the formal dressed people there.

I'm quite certain that it's a matter of preference: Apple or orange,
brocoli or cauliflower, etc. I prefer the Church that says come as you
are. Not what you want us to think you are. Like what Rev Ev said, it's
how you love that person that counts. Not what you wear.

God bless,
Lance

Please note: message attached

Let's say, one day you walked into a 'church'.
In the first 'church' everyone is hanging around in t-shir ts and jeans.
They all seem to be very laid back. They look no different than if they
were home. Everyone has their own way to come to 'church'.
The second 'church' you walk into, everyone is dressed up very nicely
(casual dresses and business suits) Young and old alike. They all seem to
be very laid back. Their faces look no different than if they were home. 
After going to both 'churches'...which one would you feel was more
serious about learning, setting an example to new ones who have never
been there before, and are clean cut? 
I work in an office, I have to wear business casual clothes to set an
inviting atmosphere for new clients. Wouldn't that make sence to bring
that sort of atmosphere to 'church'. BUT....because 'church' is is God's
work...Doesn't it make sence to dress up even more? When you compare the
two....which one should get higher devotion? 
Let's say I do do what you do when it comes to 'church'. I dress down and
wear what I want. In my heart, I would feel embarrest. When i know that I
didn't give my best to God. 

And no...no guys wear tuxes, except at weddings. Although it would be
funny to see :)

Posh
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