[GCFL-discuss] Marriage

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 Siarlys, if you mean thinking of sex every five minutes as "Booty call
every five minutes". Thats normal, everybody does it male and female alike.
(Jeff at his age does it more often than that.) I don't see how you can put
that in the sin department. The sin may come if ones thoughts turn into
actions.

As far as fags go, live and let live. I'm for civil unions but not marriage
in the name of GOD

Dave


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To: "Shirley Heit" <sdmheit at verizon.net>
Cc: "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List" <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [GCFL-discuss] Marriage


> Jeff, I'm not going to start an argument, especially since I feel the
> same way you do on many of your statements, but I have been trying for
> years to put together some common sense points that could take the issue
> of homosexuality OFF our national and local civic agendas, because it is
> such a waste of time and energy.
>
> Yes, I find description of homosexual acts disgusting. As to whether it
> is a sin, I don't really care, because unlike adultery, I don't find it
> tempting. I have to worry about things I could in some circumstances find
> tempting (even though I know there is good reason not to do them).
> Whether homosexuality is a sin, I am content to leave between those who
> are tempted, the clergy they seek counsel from (if any) and God. I have
> in the past counted a few homosexuals as personal friends, I did not try
> to dissuade them, they did not try to persuade me, and at least one of
> them died of AIDS.
>
> I don't believe that anyone loses any right as a citizen because they are
> homosexual. I also don't believe anyone is entitled to special
> recognition because they are homosexual. If that's what turns someone on,
> they can keep it in the privacy of their own home, and no, I don't want
> to hear about it, I don't admire or respect it, and I wouldn't insult
> anyone by "tolerating" it. But I agree that the police have better things
> to do, and that state laws should not impose criminal penalties for
> private consenting behavior. I note however, because its not illegal
> means you won't go to prison, that leaves open that you may go to hell,
> whatever that may be.
>
> At a church retreat I attended last fall, one of the speakers asked
> everyone to write down what they thought of homosexuality, and what each
> person thought God thinks. After getting predictable denunciations, he
> said, OK, what everyone basically said is that it is against God's
> pattern. Now what makes THIS sin so especially deserving of disgust? Each
> of you has done some OTHER thing that ALSO is against God's pattern.
> Booty call every five minutes is no better. (That really puts it in
> perspective.)
>
> I observe that most Christians who are concerned about homosexuality
> simply don't want to be put in a position of having to "accept"
> homosexuality, or teach their/our children that its an OK thing. It is a
> valid point. It is legal to drink wine and whiskey and beer in this
> country, but some churches teach that consuming any alcohol is a sin.
> They have a right to teach that, and likewise a right to teach that
> homosexuality is a sin. (That is guaranteed by the First Amendment,
> although most people don't know it.)
>
> Anyway, homosexual lobbies will have to come to terms with the fact that
> it is a biological abberation, whether or not it is an abomination. You
> can get that from Darwin, much less from the Bible. Its always going to
> be a minority practice, that carries some social disabilities, life is
> not always fair. And yes, Genesis 1:27 is enough to show that the union
> of two individuals of the same gender does not produce the image of God,
> as the marriage of a man and a woman does.
>
> Siarlys
>
> P.S. Sorry to run on so long, but I always see so many angles.
>
>
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