[GCFL-discuss] keep it a good clean group

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:37:45 -0400 gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net writes:
Sorry I find "name calling" such as SOB inappropriate for this discussion
group.  I don't frequent bars or other chat rooms where I suppose this is
more common.  I enjoy the discussions & hope to continue to enjoy them.  
Carla

Sorry Carla. I thought this referred to one of my postings, but I had to
go back and look to be sure. I abbreviated for obvious reasons, but that
isn't always good enough. I do expect that the sheriff under discussion,
and certainly most of his deputies, use such language -- or worse -- all
the time in dealing with those in their custody. Again, there may be
exceptions, but in general it is commonplace. I expect any complaint
about it would be met with some variation on "this isn't a hotel" -- the
most worn-out cop-out used by prison and jail administrators. (One
sheriff even used that phrase to deflect criticism that rapes take place
several times a day in his jail, can be heard by other prisoners of both
genders, and that no attempt is made to intervene and put a stop to it).
So, yes, it is inappropriate for the discussion group, and it is not
generally accepted among most people I spend time with either. But to
anyone who enjoys humiliating prisoners, this kind of language goes along
with the pink underwear. At some point we have to get a grip on:

1) If you want people to learn respect, you have to show them some
respect.
2) If you are better than them, show it by example, not by stomping on
them.
3) If you don't want such language in your life, be vigilant about not
allowing it to be visited upon people who have no choice.
4) Do unto those in prison what you would have done to you if you were in
prison -- assume you are guilty and penitent, what would you think YOU
deserve?

All this is possible without losing control. Some people will still need
to be firmly removed from general population and isolated for the good of
everyone else.

Siarlys
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