[GCFL-discuss] Oooops!

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That is EXACTLY what I meant.  I know they lost most of what they had.  The point is they didn't use what they DID have, just started blaming.  Was the mayor on the phone to the state, and the governor on the phone to FEMA?  If they were I didn't hear about it.  Frank

"Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List" <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote:Isn't what Frank ment is that a least Guliani did something instead of 
waiting around for somebody to act ???

Dave
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> Frank, there is no comparison between what Rudy Guliani had to deal with,
> and what the mayor of New Orleans had to deal with. Guliani had at his
> disposal police and fire departments that lost less than 10% of their
> total complement -- I believe a good deal less than 10%, but I am trying
> to err on the side of not minimizing it. For the families concerned, and
> their colleagues, it was horrendous, but the city government was intact
> and had substantial forces at its disposal. More important, most of the
> people of the city were sleeping in their own beds, had functional
> kitchens stocked with food, and had jobs to go to the next morning --
> even if everyone was in a state of shock over the horrendous losses in
> their city.
>
> The Mayor of New Orleans had control of not one street, not one
> functional office, there was no part of his city that was not
> disintegrating. Think if some sort of disaster hit the entire country at
> once -- none of us would be rushing to the aid of New Orleans. What makes
> it possible to act is that a large population somewhere is NOT
> overwhelmed, and therefore is able to extend a helping hand. No part of
> that intact population was under the jurisdiction of the mayor of New
> Orleans.
>
> With five of the top eight positions in FEMA held by political appointees
> having no experience in disaster relief, its not surprising that response
> was so slow and inadequate. The mayor did give credit where credit was
> due, e.g. to the Louisiana national guard general who took charge and
> started to get things done once he was sent in.
>
> Perhaps the mayor should have gone out on the street, rounded up any cops
> he could find, and taken personal command of what was being done in a few
> blocks. But what about the rest of the city? I saw the mayor of Chicago
> on TV saying that teams from his city were ready to go, just waiting to
> be called. The Mayor of New Orleans might have called and said "Never
> mind the feds, we need you now" and made some arrangements. I don't like
> the profanity either, but I am sitting in a comfortable efficiency with a
> roof that doesn't lead and a refrigerator that is plugged into a working
> electrical grid, so I am not going to complain.
>
> Siarlys
>
>
> P.S. Oh, another "different perspective." Who and what is Robert
> Tracinski? He sounds like a spider spinning webs from very doubtful cloth
> to me. I would want to know something of his credentials, how much time
> he spent where, etc. What IS this guy's motive?
>
> Of course there are people in the world who think the sole purpose of
> everyone else around them is to provide for their every need. (I could
> add that these people come in very rich and very poor varieties, and
> morally there is little difference, but we can save that for another
> time). But what we all saw on live TV from New Orleans could happen to
> ANY of us, if what we had to work with was sufficiently overwhelming.
>
> The very fact of living in a city (and 90% of us would of necessity die
> if we tried to "go back to the land" -- that lifestyle can't support so
> many people per acre no matter how hard we try) means that your existence
> depends on a whole complex of things being in place 24/7. People can take
> initiative if they are totally cut off, provided they have a source of
> food, a clean river to obtain water from, etc. A single man can live
> under a tarp in a demolished neighborhood, if not too many others are
> trying to live within half a mile of his campsite. In the middle of a
> dense urban area with no water, no police, no housing, no food, and yp to
> your neck in water that is both biologically and chemically hazardous...
> desperate people ARE a security problem, no matter who they are, how
> polite their upbringing, or what they normally act like at other times.
>
> This is the first time an entire American city has totally ceased to
> exist as a functional entity. Without our familiar infrastructure, we are
> nothing but a mob. I go along with sweeping aside petty psychoanalysis by
> a Canadian journalist, but the rest of that article was equally
> contemptible.
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