[GCFL-discuss] The Poll Taker

Thu Jul 8 19:42:50 CDT 2010

Sadly I don't know... But when Congress went out of their way to add a piece
to their health care that makes them immune to this new bill people were
outraged... They kept quoting that there's some amendment that said Congress
couldn't make a law for the masses but not themselves.
Just checked all 27 Amendments and I'm not seeing anything close to saying
that... :(

Lance

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List
<gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote:

>  Lance, I can't think of any language in the Constitution which says that
> Congress cannot make any law that Congress is immune to. It's certainly not
> in the First Amendment. Please quote the specific language, and we could
> have some fun kicking around what it means.
>
> Siarlys
>
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:21:49 -0700 "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies
> List" <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> writes:
>
> Doesn't it also say Congress cannot make a law they're immune to?
>
> ~Lance
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List
> <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote:
>
>> TO: greenBubble, Jeanene, whom else it may conern...
>>
>> The reason I said "Congress shall make no law..." and left it trailing
>> was,
>>
>> 1) The point under discussion, or the relevant implication in my mind, I
>> forget which, was that when the First Amendment says "Congress shall pass
>> no law..." (regarding whatever comes next), it categorically denies
>> Congress jurisdiction over that subject matter. It does not, as some
>> schools of judicial philosophy would have it, mean "Congress shall pass
>> no law... unless Congress and the Supreme Court agree that, on balance,
>> the government's interest in passing the law is greater than the people's
>> interest in not having the law passed."
>>
>> 2) I assumed that the well-informed, patriotic, citizens who populate
>> this discussiong group, would know quite well what it is that "Congress
>> shall pass no law" about:
>>
>> "respecting an establishment of religion,"
>>
>> "nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
>>
>> "or abridging the freedom of speech..."
>>
>> "or of the press..."
>>
>> "or the right of the people peacably to assemble..."
>>
>> "and to petition their government for redress of grievances."
>>
>> Again, my point was, on these matters, Congress shall pass NO law, not
>> some law, not a little bit of law, not laws infringining in small ways,
>> NO LAW.
>>
>> Justice Hugo Black, the civil libertarian former senator from Alabama,
>> was quite eloquent on this point, and quite forceful. When Hugo Black
>> Antonin Scalia agree, they are almost always correct. When they disagree,
>> the man from Alabama usually has it right.
>>
>> Siarlys
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:35:23 -0400 "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies
>> List" <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> writes:
>>  > siarlys
>> > i think jeanene takes exception to your frequent quote of half a
>> > sentence:   "Congress shall make no law, "  implying that congress
>> > shall
>> > pass no laws at all, which is obviously not the constitution's
>> > intent at
>> > all.
>> >
>> > greenBubble
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [GCFL-discuss] The Poll Taker
>> >
>> > I'm still not clear. What was the misquote? And what was its
>> > significance
>> > to the meaning of the First Amendment?
>> >
>> > I too have some Scot-Irish, but more Welsh, on two different sides
>> > of my
>> > mother's family, and some east Tennessee Cherokee, nobody who got as
>> > far
>> > west as Oklahoma. I guess nobody wanted to cross all those flatlands
>> > to
>> > get from the Appalachians to the Ozarks.
>> >
>> > Siarlys
>> >
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