[GCFL-discuss] Twisting Scriptures
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Mon Jul 19 11:18:06 CDT 2004
What language??
gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net wrote:
Siarlys,
Please do not take this wrong but I was a little concerned about some of the language you were using especially considering there are young children subscribed to this list as well as adults. Again not because I was offended but because it is a reminder for all of us ( Including myself)
Thanks
Jeff
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:46:01 -0500 gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net writes:
> No, I am not proposing a name for a punk rock group. But one thing
> Jeff
> wrote sent me off on another tangent.
>
> A friend of a friend of mine once introduced me to a young man
> whose
> nick-name was "the Gay Christian." He was a graduate of Bob Jones
> University, raised in a Southern Baptist Church in Goldsboro, NC,
> and
> somewhere along the line found, chose, or somehow came to act and
> think
> of himself as homosexual. But he adhered to all other beliefs of
> any
> born-again Christians.
>
> I asked him, you must be familiar with references in the Old
> Testament
> that are cited to condemn what you are saying. How do you responed
> to
> that?
>
> He answered, oh, you mean in Leviticus? If I am talking to a
> Christian, I
> ask, do you eat crab, lobster, oysters, or pork? Those things are
> also
> prohibited in a chapter of Leviticus. Now if I'm talking to a Muslim
> or
> an Orthodox Jew, I can't say that, because they DO honor the command
> to
> eat none of those things.
>
> I recounted this a few months later to a friend who I knew had a
> different attitude on the subject, who was easily ready and able to
> cite
> what the New Testament says about dietary laws. I speculated that if
> I
> had a chance to pass that comment along to the gay Christian, he
> would
> answer "like Paul said about diet, if you are a heterosexual, be a
> heterosexual for Christ, if you are a homosexual, be a homosexual
> for
> Christ." Of course Paul ranked one man lying with another right up
> there
> with fornication, but then, most homosexual conduct WAS fornication
> in
> the culture of the Roman Empire. Even cultures that have respected
> homosexuality never even considered that it might be the basis for
> a
> marriage. And in our culture today, men who freely engage in
> fornication
> somehow feel that they are superior to men who engage in
> homosexuality,
> whether monogamous or promiscuous.
>
> So, when it comes to twisting and turning Scripture, I sometimes
> arrive
> at the conclusion that EVERYONE who cites scripture is twisting and
> turning it to their own satisfaction. Some people still cite
> Leviticus to
> uphold that God approves of the death penalty -- but Jesus said,
> "Let he
> among you who is without sin cast the first stone."
>
> (Which is exactly what I would hold up in the face of the
> "godhatesfags.com" idiots if I ever ran into them -- it wasn't let
> he
> among you who never committed THIS sin cast the first stone, but he
> who
> is WITHOUT sin.)
>
> Jesus did change some of the rules. Why? I expect because God
> decided it
> was time t change the rules. Maybe us humans were a little more
> mature by
> then.
>
> Siarlys
>
>
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