[GCFL-discuss] Twisting Scriptures

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  Siarlys,
 Please do not take this wrong but I was a little concerned about some of
the language you were using especially considering there are young
children subscribed to this list as well as adults. Again not because I
was offended but because it is a reminder for all of us ( Including
myself) 
  Thanks
 Jeff

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:46:01 -0500 gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net writes:
> No, I am not proposing a name for a punk rock group. But one thing 
> Jeff
> wrote sent me off on another tangent.
> 
> A friend of a friend of mine once introduced me to a young man 
> whose
> nick-name was "the Gay Christian." He was a graduate of Bob Jones
> University, raised in a Southern Baptist Church in Goldsboro, NC, 
> and
> somewhere along the line found, chose, or somehow came to act and 
> think
> of himself as homosexual. But he adhered to all other beliefs of 
> any
> born-again Christians.
> 
> I asked him, you must be familiar with references in the Old 
> Testament
> that are cited to condemn what you are saying. How do you responed 
> to
> that?
> 
> He answered, oh, you mean in Leviticus? If I am talking to a 
> Christian, I
> ask, do you eat crab, lobster, oysters, or pork? Those things are 
> also
> prohibited in a chapter of Leviticus. Now if I'm talking to a Muslim 
> or
> an Orthodox Jew, I can't say that, because they DO honor the command 
> to
> eat none of those things.
> 
> I recounted this a few months later to a friend who I knew had a
> different attitude on the subject, who was easily ready and able to 
> cite
> what the New Testament says about dietary laws. I speculated that if 
> I
> had a chance to pass that comment along to the gay Christian, he 
> would
> answer "like Paul said about diet, if you are a heterosexual, be a
> heterosexual for Christ, if you are a homosexual, be a homosexual 
> for
> Christ." Of course Paul ranked one man lying with another right up 
> there
> with fornication, but then, most homosexual conduct WAS fornication 
> in
> the culture of the Roman Empire. Even cultures that have respected
> homosexuality never even considered that it might be the basis for 
> a
> marriage. And in our culture today, men who freely engage in 
> fornication
> somehow feel that they are superior to men who engage in 
> homosexuality,
> whether monogamous or promiscuous.
> 
> So, when it comes to twisting and turning Scripture, I sometimes 
> arrive
> at the conclusion that EVERYONE who cites scripture is twisting and
> turning it to their own satisfaction. Some people still cite 
> Leviticus to
> uphold that God approves of the death penalty -- but Jesus said, 
> "Let he
> among you who is without sin cast the first stone."
> 
> (Which is exactly what I would hold up in the face of the
> "godhatesfags.com" idiots if I ever ran into them -- it wasn't let 
> he
> among you who never committed THIS sin cast the first stone, but he 
> who
> is WITHOUT sin.)
> 
> Jesus did change some of the rules. Why? I expect because God 
> decided it
> was time t change the rules. Maybe us humans were a little more 
> mature by
> then. 
> 
> Siarlys
> 
> 
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