[GCFL-discuss] Concerns About Language

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Tue Jul 20 12:04:50 CDT 2004


Ok, when did we start insulting people for being concerned for the
listeners? Just because one liberal person chooses to teach their kids
such things doesn't mean other parents wish to allow their kids to be
learning about all that at their young age. We saw Lance and Siarlys
go at it pretty hard, but they didn't insult one another for being
concerned about their fellow readers. Please, let's not digress now.

Dajas

----- Original Message -----

Jeff, 

I'm concerned about your concern about some of the language Siarlys
used. I read through her post several time, and my conclusion is that
you are concerned about the following phrases:


"Of course Paul ranked one man lying with another right up  there with
fornication, but then, most homosexual conduct WAS fornication in the
culture of the Roman Empire. Even cultures that have respected
homosexuality never even considered that it might be the basis for a
marriage. And in our culture today, men who freely engage in
fornication somehow feel that they are superior to men who engage in 
homosexuality, whether monogamous or promiscuous...

(Which is exactly what I would hold up in the face of the
"godhatesfags.com" idiots if I ever ran into them -- it wasn't let he
among you who never committed THIS sin cast the first stone, but he
who is WITHOUT sin.)"


I hope that if any children reading these posts don't understand the
language, they will feel secure enough in their relationships with
their parents that they will ask. And I fervently hope that those
parents will answer those questions openly. The words
"fornication" and "godhatesfags.com" idiots are not offensive to me,
and if my children were young and asked what they mean, I would tell
them what those words mean to me.


My belief is that the earlier an age we explain to children in age
appropriate terms what they want to know, the healthier thoughts and
actions those children will have. My children were more sexually
active at earlier ages than I would have liked, but they were making
informed choices. We had had lots of discussions about sex, birth
control, abortion, and every possible options. I did not agree with
their choices, but I did support their right to make them. After all,
I was the one who taught them!

But I digress. Siarlys' paragraphs quoted above to me have no language
that is of concern. I think the language is very appropriate to the
discussion.

And as to your discussion of the harry potter site, you would have to
obey the copyright laws. And if it is your private site in which you
choose to limit the discussion to certain topics, I believe that you,
the owner of the site have the right to set the rules for that site.
And if posts come in that don't refer to your site, you have the right
to not publish those posts.

kateinmo

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