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YES I DID!!! UGH!!! I worked so hard!!! (but not hard enough evidently!)

Yes, I very much enjoy the deeper reading of original literature.

~Lance

On 6/18/07, Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List <
gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote:
>
>  This is nit-picking over typos, but I think Lance means "Peter do you
> love me?" not "Paul do you love me?", and Peter says "Jesus, you know I love
> you," not "I know I love you." Point well taken on the English though, I
> didn't even know Simon Baryona missed the point quite so badly as the
> reference to Agape and Felejo highlights. This should give everyone caution
> about quoting isolated verses in English and then announcing "God said it, I
> beiieve it." God certainly said something, and this is the best
> understanding the reader has, without taking the time to dig deeper.
>
> There is no better way to dig deeper than to examine the Hebrew text and
> meaning, although those gentiles who believe Yehoshua ben-Yussuf was indeed
> the Messiah promised as a light to the gentiles (aka Christians) must part
> company with Jewish understanding at some point. greenBubble is one of the
> experts. The understanding I got from another expert of similar caliber is
> that The Adam was androgynous, and the male being created when the *tzela*(side, not rib) was removed from The Adam was not Adam but Ish. Adam
> continued to be used as a reference for mankind, and prophetic addresses to
> "Son of Man" read in the original Hebrew "ben Adam." This raises on
> interesting question about Genesis 5:3-5, since it clearly is talking about
> a person who lived after the separation. I have my own unorthodox thoughts
> about that, but I'll save them for another time.
>
> Siarlys
>
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:58:39 -0700 "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies
> List" <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> writes:
>
> This is the one part I hate about English. It's the lack of depth in its
> descriptions. There are places in the New Testament where English totally
> sucks air to fully communicate what's being said.
>
> For Example: Jesus talking to Peter, "Paul do you Agape me?", "Jesus I
> know I felejo you" (Forgive my spellings I haven't seen them in a long
> while). These are two VERY different words for love. Agape being pure Godly
> love. that only which comes from God. And then Felejo I believe is the puppy
> dog love. Which here we clearly see how badly Peter's missing the point! But
> you go to the English translations and you got "Paul do you love me?",
> "Jesus I know I love you". We have NO CLUE that Peter is on the wrong page.
> IT drives me NUTS!!! I love to learn about all the different things the
> English fails to cover from the original manuscripts.
> God bless,
> Lance
>
> On 6/18/07, Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List <
> gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote:
> >
> >  Siarlys wrote:
> > It is hard to follow in European translations, because Adam is mistaken
> > for a proper name, and the words Adam and Ish are freely interchanged as
> > "man" either in singular or plural.
> >
> > I think he is saying that "Adam", as used in the beginning of
> > Genesis, is a noun describing a man or mankind, but is not a name.  If so, I
> > have to qualify that statement.  There are verses where the reference is to
> > "the Adam" in which case I would agree with Siarlys.  Other places, where it
> > is not prefixed with "the", such as Gen 5:1,2 it is probably referring to
> > mankind.  But in Gen 5:3-5 It clearly is referring to him personally.  And
> > in 3:17,21 I think it is used as his name, but that's an opinion.
> >
> > *greenBubble *
> >
> >
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