[GCFL-discuss] Heresy

[Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List]

Actually I know very little about the Calvinist. A gentleman in our Church's
named Calvin and they'd make jokes about it. So I know a little from that.
But that's really the extent of my knowledge.
Lance

On 5/13/08, Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies List <
gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:12:24 -0700 "Discussion of the Good, Clean Funnies
> List" <gcfl-discuss at gcfl.net> writes:
> > English, please, Siarlys.  That sounds strangely UNLIKE English.
> > Jeanene
> >
>  I'm sorry, but I am not familiar with half the terms you just used
> Siarlys. :(
> ~Lance
>
> OK, glad I waited until all the comments are in. Lance, I thought you would
> know all about this stuff, because you often refer to religious commentary
> that I never heard of. If you know about Calvin and Wesley and Azusa, surely
> you would know something about this? Jeanene, I started thinking about this
> after reading your description of the Catholic Church in the Door
> discussion. And I thought EVERY Christian knew that Athansius proposed that
> Jesus was simultaneously fully human and fully divine, while Arias said no,
> he was fully human and the divine was somewhere else. It used to be basic
> Sunday School stuff. Athansisus was accepted as orthodox, which is why it
> appears in recitations like the Apostles Creed, which was written centuries
> after the Apostles were all dead. Other stuff is more obscure, and most of
> us don't know about them.
>
> Pelagius was a Welsh monk who came to Rome, found everyone committing
> hedonistic sins, and decided that if this is what comes of salvation being a
> free gift of grace, maybe there was something to the idea that salvation had
> to be earned by leading a moral life. He also rejected original sin, which
> never made sense to me either, nor to anyone who has ever tried to explain
> the original Hebrew meaning of Genesis, because its not there.
>
> What is fun about these topics is, most Christians have never really
> thought about them, they probably have no great significance to God, yet the
> church has spent centuries debating them. Which can either make you a fan of
> Richard Dawkins, or, can lead you back to, OK, what was the most significant
> sentence or two Jesus preached, good, now get this other stuff out of my
> face. All theological debates end in such tangled nonsense that theology
> itself is revealed to be useless.
>
> Siarlys
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > On another subject, anyone interested in Pelagianism?
> > > When I found I was too heterodox to accept Athanasian orthodoxy,
> > I
> > > thought I might be an Arian, but Arius didn't make much sense
> > either, so
> > > I looked up the Sabellian heresy, and for reasons I can't
> > remember, that
> > > didn't make sense either. At least Pelagius affirmed a sense of
> > personal
> > > responsibility, and the importance of trying to live up to moral
> > > standards, unlike most of the other Christian philosophers of his
> > time.
> > > Siarlys
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